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Xzarr Newbie


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aeblyn Newbie


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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: Re: DPS Sticky! All u want to know about Ret PvE! |
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in this spreadsheet theres a graph where you can see the dps increase per itempoint. Does this mean 1 Strength increases the dps for 0.5 (e.g.) or what does this itempoint mean? |
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Sigurd Lightbringer

Joined: Jun 27, 2007 Posts: 721 Location: (Not Sunny) California
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: Re: DPS Sticky! All u want to know about Ret PvE! |
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| aeblyn wrote: |
in this spreadsheet theres a graph where you can see the dps increase per itempoint. Does this mean 1 Strength increases the dps for 0.5 (e.g.) or what does this itempoint mean? |
It means for X amount of a stat, your DPS increases Y amount. _________________ Sigurd <Crimson> - Greymane US
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aeblyn Newbie


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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: Re: DPS Sticky! All u want to know about Ret PvE! |
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| Sigurd wrote: | | aeblyn wrote: |
in this spreadsheet theres a graph where you can see the dps increase per itempoint. Does this mean 1 Strength increases the dps for 0.5 (e.g.) or what does this itempoint mean? |
It means for X amount of a stat, your DPS increases Y amount. |
i can't imagine that. For example this would mean that 1 str would only bring 0,51 dps and 1 ap would bring 0,46? |
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Sigurd Lightbringer

Joined: Jun 27, 2007 Posts: 721 Location: (Not Sunny) California
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:31 am Post subject: Re: DPS Sticky! All u want to know about Ret PvE! |
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| aeblyn wrote: | | Sigurd wrote: | | aeblyn wrote: |
in this spreadsheet theres a graph where you can see the dps increase per itempoint. Does this mean 1 Strength increases the dps for 0.5 (e.g.) or what does this itempoint mean? |
It means for X amount of a stat, your DPS increases Y amount. |
i can't imagine that. For example this would mean that 1 str would only bring 0,51 dps and 1 ap would bring 0,46? |
Er wait, my mistake. It relates to ItemCost _________________ Sigurd <Crimson> - Greymane US
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aeblyn Newbie


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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: Re: DPS Sticky! All u want to know about Ret PvE! |
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| Sigurd wrote: |
Er wait, my mistake. It relates to ItemCost |
is this an addon? or how could i transform this into 1 statpoint = x DPS? |
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Cirex Vindicator

Joined: Oct 13, 2007 Posts: 89
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Newbie question about Bellator's spreadsheet. How do I set the enchants and the gems? Each time I try to "correct gems" I get the depurator...and doing some maths I feel they are already included in the total AP calculation. _________________ Dursty @ Kilrogg |
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Turgon Newbie


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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Does rank 1 consecrate not add considerable damage to the mix?
I fix it into my rotation in my gear and am able to have it tick between 57-60 every dot tick on the target with judgement of the crusader
for 120 mana is it not worth adding into the rotation?
EDIT: Targets without jotc tick for approximately 20/second
Also, though this is only my speculation the spell seems to benefit more from the +holy damage on jotc/libram of zeal than from +spelldamage
Also... if consecrate is truly not worth using simply because of the mana cost and a sustainable mana supply... how about some statistics to back it up?
Edit2: And yeah.. just seems to me for clarification purposes you should compare the benefit on stacking tiered pve ret gear versus equivalent dps plate (the benefits of having spell power versus that extra attackpower/crit/strength |
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Darkovan Protector

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Turgon Newbie


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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Darkovan wrote: | | Turgon wrote: | Does rank 1 consecrate not add considerable damage to the mix?
I fix it into my rotation in my gear and am able to have it tick between 57-60 every dot tick on the target with judgement of the crusader
for 120 mana is it not worth adding into the rotation?
EDIT: Targets without jotc tick for approximately 20/second
Also, though this is only my speculation the spell seems to benefit more from the +holy damage on jotc/libram of zeal than from +spelldamage
Also... if consecrate is truly not worth using simply because of the mana cost and a sustainable mana supply... how about some statistics to back it up?
Edit2: And yeah.. just seems to me for clarification purposes you should compare the benefit on stacking tiered pve ret gear versus equivalent dps plate (the benefits of having spell power versus that extra attackpower/crit/strength |
Ya my rank 1 is ticking for 77damage/sec with Libram, Season 2 gloves and 2 peice T4. (+334 Holy Damage to Judged Target) Gives me a little over 700 spell damage vs target self buffed. |
Yeah, I'm fairly certain that JotC adds a significant amount more dps to consecrate than your spelldamage gear? How much does it tick for without JotC? I only have 132 spell damage in my pve ret gear and it's ticking for 60 with jotc (yeah, I have imp talent & the libram) |
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Ranudabi Templar

Joined: Jul 09, 2007 Posts: 163
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: |
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I can't make this thing work like I want it to The click buttons doesn't work, the graph doesn't work. /cry |
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Zrave Vindicator

Joined: Oct 31, 2007 Posts: 88
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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I posted this on EJ a couple of days back, but figured this was a suitable place to post as well :
Tool to compare weapons after entering your stats :
http://www.savefile.com/files/1177458
Looks something like this at the moment :
The Buffs and Debuffs section is not done yet. |
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Lavis Crusader

Joined: Sep 13, 2007 Posts: 788
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Cromfel i know you raid pretty far as RET and i was wondering if you would be able to add some Retribution Benchmarks for various stages of progression?
For example in Karazhan the numbers i hear alot are 1400 AP and 25% crit minimum. (Not sure about Hp/Mana values though)
I would personally find it very helpful ^^. I think alot of other paladins would as well. As they usually seem to wonder whether or not they should drop crit for ap or vice versa.
Not a set in stone value but rather a general idea of where one should be for a given stage of progression ^^. _________________ You can't spell Windfury without win!
"A Retribution paladin is considered bad by the way he gears
A Rogue is considered bad by the way he fights." |
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Bravix Newbie


Joined: Nov 20, 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: Adding items |
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| Sorry but im a total noob at spreadsheets, but is there any way to add new items to the dps spreadsheet? I would like to add all of the badges rewards, but in particular the legs, to see if i could negate spending points in the precision talent. |
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Highborne Newbie


Joined: Oct 14, 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Cromfel, could you get Bellator to update his spreadsheet with +10 Haste enchant for helm (Libram of Rapidity) and +10 haste to gloves?
Also, give Rings the ability to be enchanted with +2 weapon damage or +4 stats or +12 spell damage?
Otherwise amazing spreadsheet (I think I am the only person who used +10 haste gloves/helm enchants, just want to see the comparison). |
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